Mrs_C
Mrs_C has been calling almost every day trying to get me to engage with her on the topic of our marriage. Trying to get me to explain one more time why it won't work (in order to argue that it can work).
I have rebuffed discussion on this topic.
I have agreed to a discussion of parenting issues on Saturday. She presented me with a number of "examples" of how the split is damaging the psyche of our children.
After speaking with my children I am suspicious of these... examples, and I am of the suspicion that any real damage is occurring as a result of their mother's manipulation and pressure. And I quote (son) "She just won't leave us alone on the subject of the separation. We don't want to talk about it anymore. It is what it is." also in the same conversation (daughter) "She says she wants to comfort us, but what she really wants is us to comfort her."
I am demanding a written agenda for such a meeting. I am declaring our marriage as off the table for discussion.
Daughter
Daughter's ostensible wish to live full-time with her mother.
No
Won't happen. Not even if daughter requests it. This is one instance where I am overriding my child's wishes (which haven't been expressed to me directly by her yet). I believe it is in her best interest to have the week's break from her mother's psychological torture whether daughter realises it or not. If I crumbled under that onslaught, what is Mrs_C doing to a 10 year old.
I will not be party to having such abuse heaped upon my daughter. It's not that Mrs_C is necessarily "abusing" the kids, it is just the insane emotional swirl that she imposes on the family - I found it abusive - in addition to the actual attacks. I will shelter my daughter for awhile anyway.
Her mother is using the incoming new puppy for daughter as a weapon of control, just like the room renovation. She threatened the children with losing their rooms because she would have to sell the house, and told daughter "Isn't it sad your father's choice means you will have to give up your room right after we made it all nice."
Mrs_C is saying "Too bad you won't be there to look after your puppy when you are with your father". Daughter and son argued the puppy could come the apartment, but Mrs_C refused to even entertain that idea. I think that is a giveaway as to how it is being used.
The law in our jurisdiction backs me up on my decision. No child choice until age 12.
We will see how daughter feels after a week in the clear.
I will give her extra time to be with her puppy, but she will be staying with me.
Smitten attending function for my work
Smitten is coming to a fundraiser from my part of the universe with me. On of the higher-ups ("S") who is a friend of mine (you know my business - "S" is one of the people I craft messaging and do detailed data analysis for) wants to check out "[My] new squeeze". "S" is paying for the tickets. "S" lives a couple of blocks from me and also knows Mrs_C and the kids.
Like most people who know me she has been concerned for years about my health and emotional well-being in the relationship with Mrs_C.
Smitten and Truth Time
I showed Smitten the post Truth Time about the one incident between Mrs_C and I.
Smitten is an activist in the regional women's centre and has been for years. After I learned that bit of information I found it appropriate to share the essay/post with her.
I asked her to read the post straight off this blog. She did. Her reaction was much like yours - I shouldn't have done what I did, but she understood how the incident occurred - and expressed confidence that it was an isolated incident.
Smitten and blog
I asked her to read the blog at a time when she feels up to it. I feel the need to begin re-integrating my "online life" with real life. I have shared a number of my posts with Smitten already. She has said (on tagging) "interesting - a good way to actually think about things" - I sent her the three tag from this blog (the one Pirate tagged me with), on blogging "Thank you so much for sharing that with me ........ wow" and "Thanks so much for sharing with me - I love the way you write. It is a very interesting thing to me - to journal a life for others to read"
She asked if I felt her reading the blog would help her understand me and what I am going through. I said yes.
She will read it.
Smitten has said she would be pleased to say hello to you - my online friends.
The dog
The dog has been with us for 6 years now. We got him from the pound. I did not pick the dog. Mrs_C picked the dog. Immediately after getting the dog she said it could no longer live in the house because it shed too much and piddled. I built a funky heated and insulated doghouse and dog run (some of you have seen the pictures). I worked and played with the dog and walked him for years until it no longer piddled and happily ignored me and sassed me just like my kids - and that's a good thing.
Mrs_C allowed the dog in the house after I left, and allowed it freer run.
Since I left - the dog has reverted to piddling again.
I'm sad. He had come very far.
He's being banished to the doghouse again.
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6 comments:
Wow. . . I don't even know what to say. . . The more I read the more I am convinced that Mrs. C is sick sick sick. . . . and you have to get away from her and get your kids out of there. . .
You are also very brave. . . I really like the blog thing being anonymous . . . only a few people have been allowed to read my blog. . . I think my man reads it and it keeps me from writing what I really think. . .I admire you for being able to be that open.
Wishing for the best on your meeting. . . have you considered bringing a neutral party along for safety issues. . . I am speaking of the emotional aspects of your relationship.
cad, i'm not even sure you should bother talking about parenting issues with her. it seems to me she's using that as a way to continue to engage you in this relationship.
what's to discuss?
There are certain things that I will not discuss with STBEW. I've told her many times. She still at times tries to bring them up. I know she will, and so I'm mentally prepared to tell her, without anger, "I'm not going to discuss this. Is there anything else you want to discuss?"
Sometimes she'll ask me why I won't discuss these things, and I tell her "I'm not going to discuss that either. Is there anything else you want to discuss?"
I keep my tone cordial and professional. If she accuses me of being 'cold,' I say "I'm sorry you feel that way." I keep the conversation on the topics we need to go over, and never do I discuss her feelings, nor my feelings (other than "I'm fine") or the good times we had et c. If she persists on trying to talk about issues other than what we need to discuss, I politely end the conversation.
And then kick and scream and yell and call someone to let off the steam.
I have a very good friend who's in his sixties. He went through this stuff twenty years ago. He told me that no matter what happens, I'm going to have my ex-wife in my life until one of us dies. It's best to set the ground rules for acceptible and unacceptable conversations early.
I'm pulling for you!
Yeharr
I hate even addressing this, cause I think blog surfer is just trying to get a rise out of us all, but I think blog surfer should take their negativity and take a long walk off a short pier. If they don't like how you are handling things, then they can and should just move on.
Do whatever you gotta do to make yourself happy. I agree with balloon pirate, you should be civil to Mrs. C, but don't get sucked back into the emotional stuff.
no, blog_surfer, you are the one with a problem
it is not censorship to tell you that you are not wanted as part of this conversation
it is the same as telling a know-it-all putz that they are not wanted as part of a group of people who are sitting at a lunch table
you are not wanted here
also,
if you think that this entire blog is fiction or bullshit...
why are you still here?
what compels you to keep coming back?
sicilian: i have concerns about losing the full anonymity of my blog, but i have allowed myself to get far enough of a divide between my online life and the real world.
they need to come together.
i don't know who would qualify as a neutral third party... and blog_surfer lives far away (from what i can tell from my site visit tracking software), so i don't think he'll be able to make it to dispense his wisdom
terry: i suspect you are right. i suspect it is yet another attempt to engage me on the relationship. if it is i will shut down that part or leave the discussion. all that being said - she is still the other parent, and if she says that we need to discuss a parenting issue - i have to at least give it a go...
Balloon Pirate: your advice is well taken. i shut mrs_c down tonight when she attempted to engage me in marital discussions when i picked up the kids
thank-you for sharing your techniques for dealing with those common tactics. just today she was giving me shit about "I thought we were going to be friends" and "you were abrupt and refuse to speak to me". i reminded her that i actually refused to discuss our marriage...
l'il sis: thanks. i agree - we all know where ballon pirate comes from and we can have respect for his opinions and the view of the world that he shares - both here and through his own blog. i know that i enjoy reading both, and i enjoy knowing who he is and the fact that he is an active and appropriate member of the blogging community and our blogging circle
i'm handling the issues with daughter very delicately. i do not need to put her in any more of a difficult position than she is in, so i have to keep my eye on the long term ball - her long term emotional well being. if that means for a few weeks she spends extra time at her mom's because of the puppy... well - it may have to be. but i will not give up on my core position of shared custody
i want to be open with Smitten. She's a special lady, that's for sure.
when she posts she says she will be Lady of Smitten not just Smitten. She says it has a lovely Knights in Armour ring to it - sort of a Lady of the Lake deal :-)
Brandi: yeah - mrs_c is expert at pulling me back into the emotional swirl she seems to like.
i will try to be resolute in cuttting off conversation outside of the agreed upon agenda
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